U saw a man at a nude beach wearing a penis ring. Any thoughts?

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• EA

  

  EarlD

  Nov 19, 2022

  Since Wikipedia is often used to define nudism by some here is definition/description of col rings that subtitle as a sexual device.
  [em]A cock ring or cockring (also called a C ring, erection ring, penis ring, shaft ring, tension ring, or Arab strap) is a ring worn around the penis, usually at the base. The primary purpose of wearing a cock ring is to restrict the flow of blood from the erect penis to produce a stronger erection or to maintain an erection for a longer period of time. Genital adornment is another purpose, as is repositioning the genitals to provide an enhanced appearance.[/em]
  
  [url][link]https://www.truenudists.com/link/618b00ffaf02bfdb/aHR0cHM6Ly9lbi53aWtpcGVkaWEub3JnL3dpa2kvQ29ja19yaW5n[/link]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cock_ring[/url]
  
  Genital piercings have a richer history and are present in non western cultures where social nudity is commonplace as an adornment. According to Wikipedia in western cultures they have sexual connotation
  [em]Like body piercings at large, genital piercings are often done for aesthetic reasons and as an expression of personal style. In addition, some (but not all) types of genital piercing increase sensitivity and provide additional stimulation during sexual intercourse or stimulation[/em]
  
  [url][link]https://www.truenudists.com/link/6e08bd785deafebe/aHR0cHM6Ly9lbi53aWtpcGVkaWEub3JnL3dpa2kvR2VuaXRhbF9waWVyY2luZw%3D%3D[/link]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genital_piercing[/url]
  
  [em]Of course, there are indigenous peoples in the Amazon rainforest, in sub-Saharan Africa, and especially in Papua New Guinea in which men wear a koteka (penis gourd) or penis sheath ( Figure 3.3 ). Functionally, it was made to protect the genitals while working and hunting in the forest, but it also serves to cover them for moral reasons. It is not worn as a sexual display element; it is made to cover the genitals in order not to become ashamed. When a man puts on a new koteka , he turns his back to the other men in order to hide his penis from their eyes. There are also indigenous peoples who do not wear anything. They also feel ashamed, but they did not necessarily develop clothes to cover their genitals; rather, they developed social rules that prohibited looking directly at the genitals. The interpretation that this is clothing in a wider sense 21 lacks any evidence. The esthetic-sexual reason: There is no evidence that humans have an instinct for adornment, and it is also not clear what role adornment plays in the context of nudity and clothing.[/em]
  
  TY - CHAP AU - Allolio-Ncke, Lars PY - 2019/01/01 SP - SN - 978-0-5676-7847-8 T1 - Clothing and Nudity from the Perspective of Anthropological Studies DO - 10.5040/9780567678508.ch-003 ER - Clothing and Nudity from the Perspective of Anthropological Studies - Lars Allolio-Ncke
  Friedrich-Alexander-University of Erlangen-Nrnberg
  
  To summarize body adornment is a thing in many cultures that also practice social nudity and in that context there is no sexual connotation. So as I have said before context is everything when it comes to social nudity behavior vs nudism and naturism. Nudism and naturism used to have norms just like any other movement and practice. So were discriminatory and outdated and no longer apply others have been abandoned as focus has shifted from a way to life that includes social nudity to a state of being or condition of nudity.
  
  First image Public Domain
  Second CC BY-SA 3.0
  File:COLLECTIE TROPENMUSEUM 'Twee Kenyah-Dajaks met een penis-staafje de linker heeft tevens een oorbel van houtsnijwerk Borneo' TMnr 10005628.jpg
  Created: circa 1920 date QS:P,+1920-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P1480,Q5727902

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• JI

  

  Jim

  Nov 19, 2022

  [quote]No part of the human body is inherently sexual. This is borne out by the fact that different societies sexualize different parts of the body. In some sociThe Bakairi tribe in Brazil believe that eating is a shameful activity that should only be done in private. Didnt know we were talking about Brazilian tribes? Anyway my response to the idea that part of the body is sexual is someone ole folks in my community often say. Common sense isnt all that common anymore.[/quote] You make a really good attempt at missing the point by appealing to the senility of edwardian and wartime seniors who thought ankles were slutty. The fundamental point of naturism as expounded ad nauseam on this site is that NONE OF THE HUMAN BODY IS INHERENTLY SEXUAL. So help me here, without the whales of august, if the penis of which you or a man you know has is INHERENTLY SEXUAL then how the flipping fluck do you get a NON SEXUAL NATURISM with AN INHERENTLY SEXUAL PENIS? Don't even try, you can't. Either it is or it isnt and if the part is sexual then the whole is otherwise you detach it and leave it at home perhaps? So, no, that doesn't fly. He's a sleaze for having a penis but I am not for also having a penis is the worst kind of sophism. Before asking why that tribe is RELEVANT. TRY READING FIRST. The point he is making is that cultural values about what is offensive and not, erotic and not, male or female and everything else is not a fixed value but something that floats and changes and is never the same for two people, let alone two cultures, so trying to make an absolute for all time and all places statement about what something means to you isnt acceptable or consistent with reality. Your belief is not reflective of anyting but your belief. You need to inquire as to whether your belief has any foundation and any scientific cultural or even pop sci cultural value before asserting it as fact for all times and all peoples. The seniles notwithstanding youd be surprised with what they get up to in those places. And you're wrong. Either that or the actual education and research and professional experience and degrees and what I can freaking read online right now from reputable research organizations and in e books? All of anthropology since Malinowsky and Mead took a tumble from the idea that they could look at a culture that wasnt theirs and know it. This is exactly that. If you dont know the language you cant understand the text.

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• EA

  

  EarlD

  Nov 19, 2022

  [quote]Before asking why that tribe is RELEVANT. TRY READING FIRST.[/quote]
  You are correct in saying the human body as a whole is not inherently sexual I agree wholeheartedly and completely. However the OP didnt ask about the human body as a whole. And I didnt refer to the human body as a whole being sexual. I specifically referred to specific parts.
  I read and we are talking about other cultures we are talking about western culture so it is irrelevant it is a distraction and an attempt to avoid responding to the actual points I have made that come from western cultures..
  
  However since you feel it necessary to bring in other cultures I have added more research documented information about genital jewelry in indigenous cultures which is a direct connection rather than equating eating in private and genital jewelry.
  
  So try again

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• EA

  

  EarlD

  Nov 19, 2022

  [quote]Can we not just agree,body adournments are not new, each to there own, if you're gonna visit naturist sites/ beaches, you are gonna see the whole spectrum of bodies and whatever they want to do with them, be it tattoos, jewelery, piercings, you're not gonna die cos someone has a pierced cock, chill out, live and let live[/quote] I can agree with this comment wholeheartedly. However the OP asked for an opinion and I gave mine. Those who dont like it or disagree want only their voices to be heard and are trying (With no effect) to force their opinions by discrediting mine. Something common here and elsewhere online. But I can hold my own and dont feel like being cowed by anyone whose opinion may differ. I will fight for their right to have their opinion and I will have mine. Though I dont believe the reverse is true.

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• ME

  Member

  Nov 20, 2022

  [quote]I have no thoughts whatsoever. The wearing of penile adornments is a personal choice, and men wear them for a variety of reasons, usually to draw attention to the genitals. Ardent, non-sexual nudists generally oppose such items, and they are also entitled to their own opinions. Life is too short - let's just love and accept everybody.[/quote] Absolutely agree.

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• ZE

  

  Zeke

  Nov 20, 2022

  My thought is, well why is he wearing it? So I would ask why. And I have asked, and gotten various reasons for wearing a penis ring. One guy told me he liked the weight it gave to his penis. Did he wear it all the time? Yes. Another guy stated he wore it off and on and even having sex with his wife. His wife like the feal of it in her (both in her pussy and ass he added). Why wear it on beach then? He choose to wear it that day. I also got those that said that they liked the fact peeps would look at their cock and the attention the penis ring would bring. So, it's a personal choice and my though is good for them. It's just like anything else guys do to their bodies, it's their choice from tats to shaving body hair.

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• ST

  

  Steve

  Nov 25, 2022

  by All-in-the-nuda: [quote]There are some rings that are worn at the base of the shaft, the purpose of which is to enhance or prolong an erection.[/quote] I disagree with that as I'm definitely in the category of wearing for aesthetic reasons and because I like the feeling without getting any erectile response. [quote]A glans ring, on the other hand, is worn just over the head of the penis and is simply decorative like a piece of jewelry.[/quote] That's how I feel for both kinds of ring, and if they match, all the better!

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• ST

  

  StevieLorna

  Nov 25, 2022

  [quote]by All-in-the-nuda: There are some rings that are worn at the base of the shaft, the purpose of which is to enhance or prolong an erection. I disagree with that as I'm definitely in the category of wearing for aesthetic reasons and because I like the feeling without getting any erectile response. A glans ring, on the other hand, is worn just over the head of the penis and is simply decorative like a piece of jewelry. That's how I feel for both kinds of ring, and if they match, all the better![/quote] My experience of men who say its just decorative like a piece of jewellery have no real answer to the question. If you like jewellery that much why is it only your dick thats wearing it?

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• DO

  

  Doug

  Nov 25, 2022

  Interesting question/thoughts.

  Here is my corollary Question:
  Is the sexuality in the object or in the perception?

  Is the sexual nature of a cock ring, a piercing, or even more obvious arousal (no matter gender or sexuality) within it or rather the person obsessing about it? Thoughts???

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• OL

  

  Olly

  Nov 25, 2022

  It's just body jewelry.

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• ST

  

  Steve

  Nov 25, 2022

  By StevieLornaTextile: [quote]My experience of men who say its just decorative like a piece of jewellery have no real answer to the question. If you like jewellery that much why is it only your dick thats wearing it?[/quote] True enough - I personally have zero interest in other jewellery. I only ever wore a watch for functionality, and it's now somewhere in my wardrobe with a flat battery as my phone has surplanted it. Perhaps - apart from the feeling - it's the appeal of a uniquely-masculine form of adornment? Perhaps, when nudity is not the convention across society, I like to be even more unconventional? I'm not certain, but hopefully liking it is enough. It is when wearing a ring under clothing.

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• EA

  

  EarlD

  Nov 25, 2022

  [quote] My experience of men who say its just decorative like a piece of jewellery have no real answer to the question. If you like jewellery that much why is it only your dick thats wearing it?[/quote] Yeah agree the decorative argument is weak especially when they go on to sayI like how it feelswhat feeling would be elicited exactly? The feeling of wearing earrings for decorative purpose or the feeling of wearing a necklace. As I said in previous comment it is a false flag.

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• ME

  Member

  Nov 25, 2022

  I was at a nudist club as a visitor and had been there many times but was called out for wearing a gold glans ring. I had worn it before and nothing was said. My problem is that there were members there who had penis piercings and women with nipples pierced but that was not a problem?
  I'm not a member but a visitor so I didn't want to rock the boat but I saw the hypocrisy of it.
  I DO NOT wear it for sexual enhancement or pleasure, it it body jewelry just as the nipple piercings and genital piercings are.

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• ST

  

  StevieLorna

  Nov 25, 2022

  [quote]It's just body jewelry.[/quote]
  
  Yes, but its the only part of your body thats wearing it.
  
  I have absolutely no problem with anyone decorating their dick like a Christmas tree. Just dont tell me its the same as wearing a watch.
  
  It really isnt and you all know it. Single guys (as it usually is) who wear cock jewellery at the naturist places weve been to have had a much harder time interacting with others naturists because of how they choose to present themselves. Right or wrong, thats been our experience.

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• EA

  

  EarlD

  Nov 25, 2022

  [quote] I have absolutely no problem with anyone decorating their dick like a Christmas tree. Just dont tell me its the same as wearing a watch. It really isnt and you all know it. [/quote] Yeah I mean I really hate to have my intelligence insulted by that gaslighting idea of it being "just" body jewelry. As you said if they would just be transparent about it then it would clearly come done to a matter of choice. But trying to say its just like other types of jewelry is misleading at minimum.

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• ST

  

  StevieLorna

  Nov 25, 2022

  [quote]I have absolutely no problem with anyone decorating their dick like a Christmas tree. Just dont tell me its the same as wearing a watch.It really isnt and you all know it. Yeah I mean I really hate to have my intelligence insulted by that gaslighting idea of it being "just" body jewelry. As you said if they would just be transparent about it then it would clearly come done to a matter of choice. But trying to say its just like other types of jewelry is misleading at minimum.[/quote] Yeah, I wear this ring on my finger to tell everyone Im in a relationship. I wear this ring on my dick because I have no relationships.

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• ST

  

  Steve

  Nov 25, 2022

  I guess we're not all going to come to agreement on this topic. :-)

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• ST

  

  StevieLorna

  Nov 25, 2022

  Thats why we choose to be different.

  I prefer not to wear clothes when it suits me.

  If I prefer to wear parts of a washing machine on my dick because it suits me, thats fine too.

  Just dont use the same noun to describe them.

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• EA

  

  EarlD

  Nov 25, 2022

  Even if the purpose is decorative, decorating an item whether it is your home, a tree, your body or body part has a purpose a decorative purpose. Do you decorate your home at Christmas or your Christmas tree so it will be ignored and not looked at? Are tattoos meant to be decorative and not seen or looked at?
  
  Not sure why it is so hard to admit genital jewelry is worn to decorate a penis because to be seen and looked at. Then it is perfectly ok and normal to have differences of opinion about the propriety of that is in nudism naturism and whether thats looks good or not. As said before everyone entitled to their own opinion. But dont gaslight and present opinion to avoid the facts

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• ME

  Member

  Nov 25, 2022

  People have nipple & genital piercings, men & women, some have tattoo's all over, including the genitals, it is their choice. Why does it matter to others if someone chooses to wear a cock ring, or a chain around their waste, be fully shaved to clearly show their genitals or be hairy and not show much, it's their choice. Cock rings are similar to genital piercings in my view, just without the pain I'm guessing.

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• EA

  

  EarlD

  Nov 26, 2022

  [quote]People have nipple & genital piercings, men & women, some have tattoo's all over, including the genitals, it is their choice. Why does it matter to others if someone chooses to wear a cock ring, or a chain around their waste, be fully shaved to clearly show their genitals or be hairy and not show much, it's their choice. Cock rings are similar to genital piercings in my view, just without the pain I'm guessing.[/quote] Not quite sure what point you are making here. Are you saying it doesnt matter to you if someone wears a penis ring at the beach or a resort? Just seeking clarity.

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• NU

  nudeyooper

  Nov 26, 2022

  I am finding this discussion a bit amusing. Now, I am not against tattoos or jewelry, but I do think they are a waste of time, money, and energy. I have one piece of jewelry, a wedding ring that I have not worn for 21 years. We've been married 21 years.
  If you wear it because you like the look, do you admire it on yourself by using a mirror or some other means to view the entire adornment?
  If you wear it because you like the feel, do you admire it even when clothed?
  No answer is right or wrong here, but your answer could be a clue that you are kidding yourself.

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• ME

  Member

  Nov 26, 2022

  I think a man shaving his pubic hair off looks bloody ridiculous! BUT that is my feeling....I do not nor would I discriminate or reject him as another fellow nudist. The reasons that people do the things they do: get tattoos, shave their pubic hair, wear nipple or genital rings etc concerns them and their personal life and feelings and how they want to express themselves. Is being a nudist sexual, all of the literature that talks about the nudist world emphasizes that it's not about sex, and yet if you talk to textiles they will tell us we are gaslighting when we saw that being a nudist is not about sex.

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• JO

  

  John

  Nov 26, 2022

  naturaldude wrote: [quote]I was at a nudist club as a visitor and had been there many times but was called out for wearing a gold glans ring. [/quote] It should be noted that you were at a nudist club, and the OP was a visitor at a nude beach. The rules are different. I don't think theyshouldbe different, but they are. At a private club, they get to set the rules and enforce them, whereas the only norms at most of the nudist beaches I've been at is that no overt sexual activity or behavior is tolerated. But I've never seen any jewelry police around. So at a nude beach, a guy with a cock ring or a glans ring is OK, as long as he isn't flaunting a boner. (And by "flaunting," I mean making a point of calling attention to it. If he's got a boner but is still polite and deferential, I'll just be patient in the knowledge that it will probably go away of its own accord.)

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